Just wondering what everyone would do.

well technically im 'safe because of age' but if i werent, id just fake being gay.

I may be wrong, but I dont think the gay thing works anymore.

and i may be wrong but i dont think hes faking about the gayness

Doesn't work anymore. now you have to be caught commiting a sexual act with the same sex to be discharged.

I wouldn't do anything except welcome the new labor, been in the Air Force since I was 17

I'd enlist only after Jenna, Barbara, George P., Jeb Jr. and Pierce Bush enlisted to fight on the front lines too. Not to forget Andrew Rove, Andrew Giuliani, and the Romney kids. FDR's sons faught in World War II, both of LBJ's son-in-laws faught in Vietnam, why not Bush's daughters and nephews? But that hasn't happened and I doubt will ever happen. So I'd do nothing and risk being drafted. If it were like World War II I would enlist, but I wouldn't for a war like Vietnam or Iraq.

But I guarantee you that if they did bring back the draft, Chickenhawks would become an endangered species. Especially chickenhawks ages 18-35.

Thats the thing, if you enlist you dont have to fight in the war. If you enlist, you get to choose what you do for the Armed Forces. If you get drafted, they tell you what youre going to do. Id probably join the Navy if anything happened. Great travel opportunities. Of course the money for college wont do much considering I graduated from Penn State last spring. Thats what most people enlist for now, money for college.

Well some still do it out of real patriotism . I mean mean real patriotism not the kind when people slap American flags and magnet yellow ribbons on their cars and then fill these cars up with gasoline from Saudi Arabia.

But that getting to choose what you want to do in the Armed Forces isn't always the case for everybody, especially during war times. If they brought back the draft during war time and people rushed to enlist so they could choose what they got to do there'd be a lot of people choosing to be army cooks. That wouldn't work for everybody. I'm willing to bet most young men would want positions where they wouldn't be on the front lines.

There are lots of army recruiters out there that sell (mostly poor) young men and now women a bill of goods (like you get to choose what you do) just to make recruitment goals.

wow, congrats u can make a diss that any1 with an IQ above 70 could make, which that might be a little high seeing how u made it. i was expecting something like that. and ok if that doesnt work ill go to canada

a canadian rapper? thats unheard of, oh wait so are you.

Talk about some massive illegal immigration.

You might not be able to ever come back to the United States if you do that though. You'd be an American exile. The only reason Vietnam war resisters and evaders were able to come back was because of President Carter's blanket amnesty program for them. So if you ever hoped to see your family and friends again you'd have to hope that a future President would risk their own political capital to give blanket amnesty to the war resisters and evaders. Then the other question is, what could be the conditions for this amnesty? Or you could risk prison time and sneak back into the United States. It's not all as simple as going to Canada to avoid a war then after the war is over coming back to the U.S.

give him a break, he doesnt have time to study all that stuff. hes 15 and has a record deal.

This will NOT be another hijacked anti-Rd post

Well I don't know anything about that, just showing him why going to Canada during a draft could have it's consequences.

This is a good question and something young people should take seriously.

war and peace, its such a delicate subject

ok? u know how many good rappers r unheard of. u mention lupe fiasco to some1 ppl will most likely not know who he is and hes great, u mention big l to a normal person and they wont know who he is(and im talking about some1 my age) and big l is a legend, or big pun, hell u mention 'amen almighty' to some1, depending the area, they prbly wont hear of him. now dont get that mistaken, i think amen's a really good rapper, im saying if ur going to say im bad cause im unheard of then thats stupid, theirs allot better rappers out their that r unheard of then heard of nowadays. saigon is better then soulja boy or any underground artist. so my point is, u dont have to be heard of to be good

Most people are forced into the military with open contracts, They say you can do what you are going to do and then when it comes time to get a job assigned they give you a list iof what is available. Usually the shit job as the better non front line jobs are held for the people with higher apptitude test scores. I chose my job because I scored high enough to do any job in the AF (really not as hard as it sounds it I believe the highest min score for a job is like a 70 on a percentile test) The test are a combination on mechanical, electronic, general knowledge, and administartive apptitude. All 4 of those section are combined to make the score you get. Every job has a minimuim combined and sectional score. I do Sattelite communications so my admin score doesn't matter they only looked at my total score and electronic score to see if I qualifed for the job.

So say you want to do my job. You take your ASVAB test and don' score enough in electronics. You go to basic and about 3 weeks in they say you didn't score high enough now you have to pick a new job. They hand you a list of jobs you are qualified for and are critical needs. Usually Military police and services (cook).

Don't ever listen to your recruiter they are on a quota system and if they fail quotas they dont' get promoted so ripping off nieve teenagers is what gets them paid.

Listen to NukemHigh!!! Especially you guys still in high school. This one recruiter was going after my brother hard when he was in high school. Dude even came to our house and gave me his card and a brochure. Ironically this was back in early 2003.

Those recruiters are relentless and very obnoxious. My friend decided to join the USMC and the recruiter must have made him write down some names for the guy to go after. The asshole called me twice, both times I told the guy I wasnt interested, then they sent me a letter in the mail telling me that they have not been able to contact me and that if I dont give them a call they will come by the house. I call them, told them again i wasnt interested in joining. a few weeks later some guy who wasnt the same recruiter comes by my house and asks me to go to a diner to discuss decisions about joining the marines. I mean its like a f***ing interrogation progress with these guys, they keep bugging you and bugging you until you say yes or something. when I went off to college the calls to my knowledge stopped except for a few exceptions but still its annoying as hell what they do.

I'm not sure but I think what they did to you could boarder line on being illegal.

Well its over now thank god. but i hope it doesnt start up again since im out of college.

OK BACK ON TOPIC!!!!!!!!!

i'd do nothing and risk being drafted. its like being raped or having to do jury duty, all u can do is lay down and accept it.

rape, just accept it. LMAO

Interesting topic! I retired fromthe navy 4 yrs ago after 20 yr hitch. Anyway, I have a 16 yr old son. he is our only child, If inthe next 2 years there was a draft, I would get him out of the country and into a college abroad. There is no way he will be fighting in this war. NO WAY he will die for the military industrial complex, ther eis no doubt this is a war about oil and the control of this oil. Alan Greenspan also said this in his new book, and now blasts BUSHS administration over the mismanagement of 9-11 and this war.... Remember 15 of the 19 hijackers were saudi arabian, and 38 pages of the 911 commission report were taken out and censored by BUSH. What did these pages contain? All those pages ommited were in regards to financial aid used by the hijackers FROM SAUDI ARABIA.

While I am not a fan of this war, nor the people who run it, i would join a branch because I AM NOT A HYPOCRITE AND I RESPECT THOSE WHO HAVE FOUGHT FOR OUR COUNTRY CURRENTLY AND IN YEARS PAST.

Stupid topic anyways because there is a Constitution provision in place that does not allow for forced servicing anyways

Come on you know those idiots in Washington, D.C. don't pay any attention to the constitution anymore. The Constitution is played out, the Patriot Act overrides it now.

But seriously where did you hear this?

I took a few Governmental writing classes last year and we did a study on recent changes to the Constitution not included in amendments, i.e. provisions, re(de)clauses and such. I emailed the professor about 3 days ago concerning the literature it was in for a completely different topic and have yet to get a response. Once i get a name or author I'll hit you up. Now seeing that the term of this presidency is coming close to an end, and usually presidents don't do a whole lot to cause a bad stir in the end of their terms, a forced enlistment override has little chance of proposition, let alone enforcement. Plus, in my opinion, the Patriot Act has more pros than cons. It's not what Moore's fat ass portrayed it as in his little ice cream truck romp. To me, if it catches and ends one even miniscule threat, its worth having my emails read.

The Republicans in Congress wouldn't support Bush bringing it back even if he did want it. That is one thing I'm sure the Republicans in Congress would stand up to him on. They are still up for re-election in 08 and beyond and Bush doesn't have anymore political capital anyway. But Bush still has those traditional lame-duck pardons (like the one Scooter Libby will get) to cause a bad stir though.

You are right Michael Moore was not totally honest when portraying the Patriot Act in his film, but neither was the Bush Administration to the American public. In my opinion the U.S. Constitution overrides the Patriot Act in every case and I don't think Americans should give up their civil liberties for any reason, including terroist threats. Because as we all know absolute power corrupts absolutely. On another note I think it's hypocritical for a political party that is supposed to be for a smaller federal government, now wants to expand the powers of the federal government. I don't believe Barry Goldwater would support the Patriot Act.

you bastards should be ashamed of your selves. this is a great topic btw. i dont see why all the votes arent take the risk to be drafted or join the armed services.

and dont give me that i dont want to fight for a pointless war bull shit. because it is bull shit. its hippy bull shit.

the way i strongly feel is that if you country goes to war and needs your ass then you pack ur shit and get going to help.
you wouldnt be shit without the land you live on. you are in debt of where you live.

for the record i wasnt even born here. ive been here since i was four and have witnessed first hand - like im sure some of you may have- all the benefits you recieve by simply just living in this country.
i recall being in highschool government class when this question was asked. the teacher went around the room asking everyone individually how they felt. of course my last name starts with a z and i was last so i got to hear everyones opinion. now the high school i went to was probably 90% white rich kid american. its safe to say that in that class, i was the only person that wasnt born here. after hearing all of the responses i was furious of how spoiled everyone sounded. some said they didnt have an opinion some were for it but i swear 88% of the class said they would rather go to canada then fight. i never felt so happy to be picked last because i chewed into everyone.

ahaha owned.